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Joy, grief, and resistance as radical practices
Mzamo Nondlwana in conversation with brut dramaturge Hanna Steinmair about the work Waiting for Fall
‘The most challenging yet rewarding moment is the point where the audience shifts from watching to moving with us.’
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Mzamo Nondlwana
Mzamo Nondlwana is a queer, non-binary performing artist originally from Johannesburg, South Africa. Their work focuses on marginalised bodies and an attempt to subvert colonial fantasy. In 2006, they completed their dance education at MID (South Africa) and in 2014 at SEAD (Austria). They have worked with Michikazu Matsune, Doris Uhlich, Magdalena Chowaniec, Needcompany and Michael Turinsky. Mzamo Nondlwana is one half of Bicha Boo Collective, an audio-visual performative collective active since 2017. They last appeared at brut Wien in 2024 in the production Turning Point.
Interview
What inspired you? What gave you the impetus for the topic, or how would you describe the theme of your piece?
The impetus came from a desire to interrogate how queer-feminist perspectives, body politics, and collective memory intersect in a time of anticipating a political future that questions our existence. Growing up in South Africa and navigating migrant realities in Vienna shaped my understanding of community as a living organism, one capable of shifting space and time. I wanted to trace these physical and emotional states. In this piece, we ask how joy, grief, and resistance can coexist on stage as radical practices rather than passive reactions.
Do you have one or more favourite, or most challenging moment(s)? Why this (these) ones?
The most challenging yet rewarding moment is the point where the audience shifts from watching to moving with us. The piece is built as a participatory performance: the audience stands rather than sits, and is invited to join the dancing, so that the room carries the energy of a street rave or a demonstration. Working without a seated, distanced audience means every show holds a different charge, and we can never fully predict how the invitation lands. To prepare, we invited people into open rehearsals and had great pleasure to learn how powerfully the format worked.
‘Joy as a form of queer-feminist resistance’
What further questions or topics did working on the piece bring you to? What would you like to work on further?
Working on this piece opened up deeper questions about long-term care, somatic endurance, and the role of joy as a form of queer-feminist resistance. Moving forward, I would love to explore durational formats, sound-based movement practices, and how these themes translate into non-traditional stage spaces or community-centred installations.
Can you tell us about your collaboration?
The collaboration was rooted in mutual trust, deep listening, and shared experimentation across disciplines. Working with the team (sound, lighting, dramaturgy), we allowed our different artistic languages to overlap organically. Each collaborator brought a unique texture to the creative ecosystem, making the final performance a truly shared, collective gesture.
Do you have a ritual?
Before going on stage, my ritual includes a grounding physical warm-up, a moment of collective breath and connection with the team and tuning into the energy of the room. It helps me center my mind, honor the space, and transition smoothly into the performance state.